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seveneighteen presents The #YNDL Tour, Vol. 1

This is the first of a series of podcasts dedicated to answering the questions of our listeners who, quite frankly, don’t listen very well. But instead of tearing them a new one behind their backs, we invite them on the show to deal with the wrath in person. How thoughtful are we?

Our first guest is Paris Moore, a New Yorker now living in the Bay Area, who had these questions:

Why do we (Midtown Mo and I) think UFC is better than boxing?
Why are we on Manny Pacquiao’s jock?
Why are Knicks fans so irrational to the point that they’ll believe they can beat anyone when they can’t?

Midtown Mo and myself, along with @MrGetItOnJones, respond as only we can… with anger and vigor and all that good stuff.


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#seveneighteen Podcast: It’s Hard Out Here For A…

@MidtownMo & @WilliamHStrafe give @southern_bella the business on the Hater’s Call after the Grizzlies lose Game 7 at home. They also call Laker fan & Grizzlies “supporter” Curtis Richardson and William’s old roommate, Emmett the Bulls fan, and William goes on another Knicks’ rant, this time with help from @MrGetItOnJones.


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You Won’t Have Mikey D. To Kick Around Anymore

After watching the Knicks get as far without him this year as they did last year, their former head coach, in his estimation, calls a spade a spade.

by Mike D’Antoni (or a facsimile thereof)

First of all, shout out to the good people at seveneighteen for allowing me to write this piece. I know I’ve been pretty tight-lipped since I left the Knicks, but when William offers you a bottle of Hennessy Pure White AND a two-for-one coupon at Applebee’s for a piece, you have to take it.

You’re probably thinking that I’ve been laughing at my old team from afar after their performance against the Heat, enjoying every minute of it. Well, that’s not true. Well, not entirely true.

Watching Shumpert get hurt like that in Game 1 really bothered me. I really like the kid and I think he’s gonna be a fine player in this league. Watching Baron Davis being carried out on a stretcher was a terrible sight. And hearing about Amar’e playing Punch Out with the glass door to a fire extinguisher – and losing badly – struck a chord with me. I agree, doing that was stupid… but at the same time, I know exactly how he feels. Because there were days I wanted to punch anything within arm’s reach after some nights at MSG.

See, after Game 2, Amar’e realized what I realized back in March when I “tendered my resignation.”

The New York Knicks are a mess… and there’s nothing either he nor I could, can or will do about it.

Think about it.

In 2008, they ask me to be their head coach, which I accepted. I knew the plan would be to set up for the free agency bonanza in the summer of 2010, and that we’d probably stink for the next two seasons. Fine.

I also told them, I have a system, and if you’re going to hire me, you have to give me the players who can run it. (If you want a chef to make French toast, you don’t give him hamburger buns and say go to work). They said fine. (That was my first mistake, but c’est la vie).

2010 comes around, we don’t get LeBron but we get Amar’e. Immediately the team makes him the centerpiece of the franchise. He’s on posters, billboards, tv spots, everywhere. And rightfully so. He was going to make New York basketball relevant again. And, he was comfortable playing for me.

Then, all of a sudden, this guy in Denver who’s won two playoff series in his entire life says, “I want to play for New York and no one else.” And all of a sudden,  EVERYONE in the metro area gets a little moist in their underwear and thinks we HAVE to get this guy at all cost (including the owner, who was born on third base and thought he hit a triple).

So we get him… and all of a sudden, Carmelo Anthony is the man in New York and Amar’e is pushed aside. And I don’t think Melo minded it at all… he loved being on the right side of the spotlight… until he saw what it was like to be on the other side of it (remember Linsanity?).

Now, Carmelo is arguably the most talented offensive player I’ve ever seen. But, as Lorenzo said in A Bronx Tale, “The saddest thing in life is wasted talent.” He has the talent to be one of the five best players in the league, if not THE best. But the best guys in the league make their teammates better. Him? Ehhh…

You’re never winning a title with that guy as your best player.* Yes, I said it.

And I think the players in that locker room believe that. I think Amar’e believes that. I am sure that his left hand believes that.

Now, don’t get me wrong, Amar’e isn’t the same guy he was even the first half of last season, much less throughout his career. He’s relied on his quick first step most of his career, and he clearly doesn’t have that anymore.

So let’s see… you have a “franchise” player that just wants to run isolation and jack up shots… a power forward whose knees are on empty whose contract makes him nearly untradeable… no healthy point guard… two guys out of fifteen who give a crap about defense… and J.R. Smith.

What’s that team winning? How’s that team getting better? What moves can they make?

(And before you start running off who the Knicks can sign or  trade for, click here.)

And the answer was to… fire me?

I have nothing against Mike Woodson, even though I didn’t ask for him to be on my staff. I think he’s a good coach, especially after the job he did with those circus animals down in Atlanta for years. And his record as head coach speaks for itself since he took over for me (18-6 is, after all, 18-6).

What happens, though, next year, when the Knicks are is 17-19 after losing at home to the Bucks for their fourth straight loss, with Melo going 5-19, with Amar’e scoring 9 points and 4 rebounds and J.R. Smith having more fouls than field goals made?

I don’t know what the fans will say. But I know two words they won’t be saying.

Fire D’Antoni.


#seveneighteen Podcast: A Tale of Two Teams (Down 3-0)

Midtown Mo and William H. Strafe induct four people into the Hoes Be Winning Hall of Fame and Hater’s Call @MzSAS after the Mavericks got swept by Oklahoma City. The fellas also discuss the possibility of the Knicks winning Game 5, what would happen if they actually came back from 3-0, why the Atlanta Hawks should move back to St. Louis, the possibility of an all Los Angeles Western Conference Final and the Mayweather-Cotto fight.


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#seveneighteen Podcast: PLAYOFFS?!?!? (NBA Edition)

@MidtownMo & @WilliamHStrafe discuss the Ron Artest elbow and preview the NBA playoffs, including how far can the Knicks go. They also discuss the Darelle Revis contract situation, Wale’s bet to cut his hair if Tim Tebow starts six games for the Jets and Mo inducts Deion Sanders into the Hoes Be Winning Hall of Fame.


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#seveneighteen Podcast: You Had One Job! ONE!

After a two-week hiatus, we return to discuss Ozzie Guillen’s stupid comments and Bobby Petrino’s stupid actions. We also discuss the “resurgence” of Carmelo Anthony, why Kanye West & Lamar Odom are girly men (not in those words) and present the newest evidence for Hoes Be Winning: Warren Sapp.

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#seveneighteen Podcast: The More Things Change…

Before we dived into the brackets, Midtown Mo & I ran through a number of topics on the sports page, including Mike D’Antoni quitting, NFL free agency (DeSean got paid!) and where Peyton Manning will end up.

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#seveneighteen Podcast: (Insert Lin Joke Here)

We have our first ever double Hater’s Call with @BobbyDrake203 (Magic fan) & @MidtownMo (Heat fan) after each team went 1-1 against each other in the last two weeks. Later, @streetztalk joins the show to discuss Linsanity!

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The State of the Knicks Podcast

Can The Knicks "Big Three" bring New York a title?

The 2010-2011 NBA season was one of the most memorable NBA campaigns we’ve seen in quite some time, due to…

And of course, The Validation, by Dirk Nowitzki.
The Mavericks are now the champs, and 29 other teams will be gunning for them next season (if next season ever happens, but that’s another story). One of those teams, the New York Knicks, believe they have a solid foundation in place with Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. But will that be enough to win a title? And what’s standing in their way?
We tackle those topics and much more in the State of the Knicks podcast, featuring @streetztalk and @DJCEO, two huge Knick fans like yours truly.


An Open Letter To Carmelo Anthony

(Originally written by Tommy Beer of  HoopsWorld.com on 3/22/11. Link provided by LeBronsLegacy.com)

A Note From the Editor: What follows is not typical HOOPSWORLD fare. We pride ourselves on being professionals and respecting the fine line between being professionals and being fans. That being said, we’re all here because we love the game of basketball, and sometimes that love pushes across the line. That’s the case here with Tommy Beer, who is as passionate a Knicks fan as you’ll find. What you’re about to read is a passionate NBA fan who also happens to be a top-notch journalist. I loved it, and I think you will, too. – Bill Ingram

Dear Carmelo,

Let’s start here: New York wants to love you. They want to embrace you. They desire to celebrate your incredible talents. They long to cheer for you, scream for you, and chant your name in a sing-song fashion.

I assume you know this by now. You heard the Garden explode when you were introduced during your MSG debut. You heard the fans shower you with all the adulation and noise they could muster. That cacophony of sound in your honor, those waves of praise washing over you had to have felt amazing. Well, that treatment, on a nearly nightly basis, is yours for the taking. You just have to embrace it.

This is a special opportunity, so don’t spoil it. Don’t let it waste away…

Your first few weeks in NYC have been tumultuous. There have definitely been some high points. The victorious home opener was special. The win over the HEAT in Miami was terrific. Your buzzer-beater to sink the Grizzlies in Memphis was spectacular.

But there have also been some disappointments. And I am not talking about missed jumpers or bad losses. Knicks fans will accept defeats. Unfortunately, they are all too familiar with the aftertaste of a bitter loss. They will deal with shooting slumps. Most fans could care less about your decision to duck the media after a bad beat last weekend. But there are certain things New Yorkers are not going to let fly, not on a continuous basis.

The pouting and the sulking are not okay. And is yelling at teammates on the court really necessary? The poor body language is disconcerting, and certainly off-putting. Hardcore NY hoops fans with can deal with errant passes or missed defensive assignments, but they will not tolerate selfishness and egocentricity. To many, these are unacceptable offenses. Complaining to teammates about a lack of shot attempts; bristling about not getting the ball in the post; intimating Coach D’Antoni needs to alter his system… This can’t become the norm. Divas need not apply.

These are bad signs, red flags that worry the most ardent of Knickerbocker supporters. For good reason…

Let’s flash back a few years: Carmelo, as you know, the Knicks were a league-wide laughingstock for the better part of the last decade. There is no need to go into the gory details here, they have been well documented.

In fact, the last time New Yorkers actually got this jazzed up about their hometown team was January of 2004, when they welcomed home, with open arms, another prodigal son. That star player was also a Brooklyn-born baller, who had achieved considerable individual success prior to his return home. That player was Stephon Marbury. NYC was beyond eager to forgive all his past transgressions.

But, as you also know, Marbury crashed and burned in NYC. His tenure with the Knicks was cloaked in failure and disappointment, both on and off the floor. The Knicks continued their losing ways with Marbury on the roster, and what was worse, they lost the respect of their fans throughout the five boroughs.

Marbury will forever been synonymous with team infighting, and sulking on the bench with a towel over his head, and “you wanna get in the truck?”, and eating Vaseline…

Nothing positive. Nothing favorable. No big shots, no big wins. Starbury somehow eroded, in just a few short seasons, all the hope and enthusiasm New Yorkers had gifted him upon his arrival/return to the Big Apple.

Melo, please let the Stephon Marbury saga serve as a cautionary tale.

Yes, Steph arrived in NYC with far more baggage and a less favorable reputation, so by no means is anybody ready to lump you into the same category as Starbury. Nonetheless, there have been some worrisome warning signs.

It started last Tuesday in Indiana. After Danny Granger sunk a step-back jumper, the Knicks were trailing by two with 0.03 seconds remaining. On the final play of the game, D’Antoni designed a play for Jared Jeffries to inbound the ball and attempt a lob to Landry Fields at the rim. As Jeffries was preparing to inbound it, you were open at the top of the key. Jeffries followed D’Antoni’s play call, but the ball was batted away. You then stood at half court and confronted Jefferies, clearly arguing you should have received the ball at the top of the key. Yet NBA rules prohibit a player from catching and shooting the ball with three-tenths of a second or less – the Knicks were reminded of this fact earlier this season, when a dramatic Amar’e three-pointer at the buzzer was ruled ‘no good.’ Either way, Melo, even if you had a legitimate beef, wait until you get into the locker room to discuss the situation with Jeffries, or D’Antoni.

However, things went from bad to worse in the Knicks indefensible 99-95 loss to the Pistons in Detroit on Friday night. Per Alan Hahn of Newsday: “The Knicks led by 11 early in the fourth, a lead they built with Anthony on the bench and not looking like the team player he so often has talked about wanting to become in New York. During one timeout early in the quarter, Anthony never got off the bench. While the rest of the players gathered around the huddle, Anthony stayed seated with a towel over his shoulders… Forget his flat jumper and the lack of lift he had in his legs, Anthony’s body language was terrible in this game. He was barking at Toney Douglas several times when Douglas opted not to dump the ball down to him.”

After the game, you went straight to the team bus, without addressing waiting reporters.

As far as ducking the media is concerned, the fans don’t care, but getting off on the wrong foot with an already skeptical NY media is not advisable. You are going to have to deal with these guys nearly every day for the next four years. It’s not always fair, but it is what you signed up for. It takes thick skin, and an ability to avoid reading any/every newspaper in order to make it in this town. You wanted to be here. Accepting responsibility after a bad loss and ‘manning up’ is part of your new job description. Playing in New York is not just about P-Diddy video montages and pats on the back.

Moreover, plenty of players far more accomplished than you have suffered the slings and arrows of the brutal NY media, and they were able to grin and bear it. Patrick Ewing took the Knicks deep into the playoffs every season and into Game Seven on an NBA Finals, and he sat, wrapped from shoulders to ankles in ice, and answered tough questions after every single game, win or lose. Despite considerable success, Ewing’s 90′s Knicks were often unfairly branded losers in the tabloids. Still, those Knicks teams showed up every day and played with a gritty toughness and intensity that fans felt personified the city. There was an undeniable love affair between New Yorkers and player such as Ewing, Oakley, and Starks, etc. John Starks is employed by the Knicks, and is around the Garden all the time – ask him what that building sounds like after hitting a big three-pointer in the fourth quarter of a close playoff game. Or if you bump into Charles Oakley, ask him about the ovation you’ll receive if you dive into the front row to chase down a lose ball and gain an extra possession. The little things can go a long, long way with the fans in this city.

Again, Carmelo, you just got here. And while the honeymoon is most certainly over, there is still obviously plenty of time left to turn the tide. You and your new team are hopefully going to enjoy a beautiful, healthy long-term relationship.

But, at the same time, somebody once said something about only getting one chance to make a first impression…

The Knicks made the right decision to trade for you, Mr. Anthony. The NBA is a superstar league, and the Knicks added a superstar, one of the most talented offensive players on the planet. Now it’s up to you, Melo, to prove that you can handle NYC, both on and off the floor. If you are looking for guidance on how to land in New York and handle the bright lights of Broadway, look no further than the other side of your own locker room. Amar’e Stoudemire has the leader and team spokesmen Knicks fans have been asking for. Amar’e dealt with some rough patches early on, including a disappointing 3-8 start to the 2010-2011 season. However, he has handled the challenging circumstances like a champ. Now, every time he steps to the free-throw line, he hears M-V-P chants ring out loudly inside MSG. Carmelo, possibly more important than watching game tape, you should watch video of Stoudemire dealing with the press in November.

NYC is often referred to as the Mecca of basketball. Well, the faithful followers in New York have been unable to root for their local deities for some time now. They are desperate to have a reason to cheer, and clap, and get energized and excited again. And they want to cheer for you, Carmelo.

Do yourself a favor, and give them the opportunity to do just that.

Signed,

Tommy Beer
Journalist, New Yorker, Knicks Fan

 

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